As you would expect from its title, Discworld Noir takes on the classic tropes of the Film Noir detective stories of 40s Hollywood - the femme fatale, the grizzled detective, the stoic narration - but with added funnies. Unlike the first two games, this is not based on any particular text but is its own self-contained tale. While the first two were based on Guards! Guards! and Reaper Man respectively, Discworld Noir takes its cues more from Elmore Leonard than Terry Pratchett.
It begins with private detective Lewton (our protagonist for the game - so long Rincewind) being hired by a busty dame named Carlotta to investigate a murder. So far, it's your regular Raymond Chandler with chuckles, but things soon escalate into a tangled web of conspiracies.
The graphics are no longer hand-drawn but uses a pre-rendered CGI style with a heavy emphasis on mood lighting. The only real time 3D character is Lewton himself, but his model does revert during cut scenes and certain conversations. Even at the time of its release in 1999, this style looked off to me. Sure, the technical aspects are on full display, but the artistry seemed to take second place for the most part. Perhaps I was simply too used to the cartoon aesthetics of Paul Kirby that had come before.
By using this style, it loses a lot of its character, resting all of its charms on the shoulders of the script and voice talent. While Eric Idle is no longer in the cast, the actors would need to do a lot to make up for it. Luckily Rob Brydon, Kate Robbins and Nigel Planer return, this time with the added talent of Red Dwarf's Robert Llewellyn. Brydon does a decent job as Lewton, but his American accent does occasionally slip back into his native Welsh.
Gameplay has also seen an overhaul. While still in the realm of traditional point-and-click with inventory based puzzles, Lewton also carries around a notepad with him. This will quickly fill up with clues and red herrings that can be used as both dialogue options and, uniquely, as if they were items. Not only does this allow for some fiendish puzzles, it also cleverly adds to the immersion of being a private investigator, crossing off clues when they are resolved or no longer needed. The downside to this is that you'll often have to scroll through pages and pages of scribbled out clues as you progress further in the game.
Considering its an original story that contains mostly unique characters not found in the books, the writing is excellent. The parodies here are not so much taken from famous fantasy writings, but also video games. A particular highlight is when you come across Laredo Cronk, a rather blatant riff on Lara Croft of Tomb Raider fame. When describing her job as a 'Tomb Evacuator', she states it's "nothing special. I break into places where priceless antiquities have been locked away for centuries, overcome the elaborate and convoluted security systems, defeat my rivals and make away with the treasure. Typical day's work really." It certainly sounds like something you'd hear from Pratchett himself, had he been an avid gamer. What is even more ironic is that his daughter would eventually pen the recent ultra-violent reboot trilogy which famously lacks any actual tombs bringing the whole thing full circle.
The only downside to the game, however, is its lack of compatibility with modern systems. It does kind of work on Windows 7, but you'd have to go through a lot of hoops in order to do so, including editing your registry and weird in-game workarounds - even then there's no guarantee it won't crash. It's a shame as most people do consider this to be the better of the three (I'm not one of them though). Its puzzles are certainly more accessible to the average adventure gamer.
There is hope, though it is a rather low-res one. The game was ported over to the PlayStation for the European market and works perfectly with an emulator. The downside is that the three discs worth of game has been reduced to one. Everything seems to be in there but in a highly compressed form. Frames of animation have disappeared giving a more choppy look and the polygon count in Lewton has been reduced. Take a look at the comparison screenshots below.
PlayStation (left) & PC version (right). Huge difference.
It looks like the PC version seems destined to be solely relegated to the distant desktops of 1999 (unless those folks at ScummVM get their talented hands on it). Until then, we'll have to make do with the PlayStation version, which is what I've provided below. Don't worry, it is compatible with a mouse so there are no clunky joy-pad controls if you don't want them. It basically plays the same as the PC version, albeit a lot uglier.
(UPDATE: I've since managed to get the PC version working on modern systems rendering the previous few paragraphs obsolete. Oh well.)
Over all, Discworld Noir is an excellent game and one that is only marred in my eyes by the change in direction it took from its predecessors. Had this had been the first Discworld game to be released, I might be singing to a different tune and ranked it above the others like others tend to do. As it stands it is still a must play in the genre, no matter what platform you are playing it on.
To download the PlayStation version, follow the link below. This custom installer exclusive to The Collection Chamber uses Retroarch with the Mednafen PSX cores to emulate the PlayStaion games on modern PCs. Mouse controls configured and supported. Tested on Windows 10.
20.05.2015 - Version 2 - Moved to Retroarch & compressed ISO
File Size: 631 Mb. Install Size: 600 Mb. Need help? Consult the Collection Chamber FAQ
Download PSX Version
To download the PC version, follow the link below. This exclusive installer uses PCem running Windows '95. Press Ctrl-Alt-PgDown to toggle fullscreen. Press Ctrl-End or middle mouse button to release the mouse. Manual included. Tested on Windows 10.
IMPORTANT - Remember to shut down the emulated version of Windows before exiting PCem. This could potentially result in errors, lost saves and corrupt data. Close the program only when it is safe to do so.
20.09.2015 - Version 2 - Changed installer to one that is more stable for larger games.
This prevents any errors you may get during install.
20.05.2018 - Version 3 - Now uses PCEm to emulate Windows '95
Download PC Version
Discworld Noir is © Perfect 10 Entertainment
Discworld (the universe) is © Terry Pratchett
Review, Cover Design and Installer created by me
Files are missing, only Install-DWNW.D03 and D04 available
ReplyDeleteI may have posted the update before all of the files had finished uploading - I underestimated how long it would take :)
ReplyDeleteI've checked and they're all there now (a total of 8 files) but let me know if you run into any more problems. This is the first Win95 emulated game I've configured in DOSBox so I'm curious how you all find it.
Hi! First of all, thanks very much for the work you're doing preserving these games by making them work on newer setups - impressive stuff and most admirable.
ReplyDeleteI've been trying to get Discworld Noir running on my laptop since I upgraded to Win7 many years ago and this is probably the closest I've got to getting it running! The installer works fine and DOSBox boots into Windows 95 no problem, but the game gets as far as the loading screen and then it crashes to the '95 desktop with the error "Assert Message: Decompression Error".
I am running Windows 10 (for all my sins) and I'm thinking maybe one of the files I downloaded didn't complete properly so I might try and re-download them tomorrow. Otherwise, any thoughts?
Hello Sean. Thanks for the kind words. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, been a bit manic in my real life.
DeleteDiscworld Noir was a bit of a bugger to get running for me too. The Windows 95 emulation is still a bit in its infancy only being supported on a modified version of DOSBox. It requires a beast of a machine to get anything smooth out of it, especially if polygons are involved.
This was my first attempt at running anything on Windows 95, and as I've run it again, it shows. Some of the settings in the dosbox.conf files are perhaps only good for specific setups. Here's a couple of things that may help with performance. Open the .conf file using notepad.
- setting fullscreen=false and fullresolution=800x600 from true and desktop will help with any jittery mouse problems. You can still go fullscreen with Alt-Enter, but I recall problems if you do this before the Windows splash screen.
- setting output=ddraw or direct3d will help with some games. I've noticed occasional crashing with any of the opengl options depending on the game. For windows 95, these should be the only ones to use as the others are more suitable for DOS.
I've just tested the install with with fullscreen false, full resolution at 800x600 and output as direct3d. The autostart doesn't seem to recognise the CD but the desktop icon plays it. I hope this helps.
I've been trying to find a working version of this to run on a Win7 64-bit machine since forever, with no luck... until now! The DosBox/Win95 version you've supplied here actually works! Very impressive.
ReplyDeletehow do i get the dos box version working ?
DeleteHello. Quite a little miracle and truly great work to have DNoir working on Win10!
ReplyDeleteWell, it's almost perfect, and admittedly, the PS version is very optional, but it might be worth mentioning that the archive within the downloadable archive is missing part 5... therefore, no PSX version installable so far.
Thanks for letting me know!
DeleteI seem to have lost the original rar files so I'm going to upload the single .exe file as a replacement (it's what was inside the rar files). I've ignored the PSX version over the PC one, so it's long overdue a revision. That might be coming in the near future.
Biffman!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for this!
This may seem trivial and/or obvious but I cannot seem to get the options menu screen to appear whilst playing the game. On the original manual it says press F1 but instead takes me out of the game altogether.
Would there be a way around this? DosBOX seems a bit clunky in this case.
Hello. I've just done a quick test and the F1 key works for me. Does it exit to the Win95 desktop or DOSBox altogether? Did the game install correctly?
DeleteGame works brilliant and runs without any issues, installation went fine too. It exits out of DOSBox altogether so might be an issue with that?
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DeleteI'm using Windows 10 and F1 acts as a HotKey for opening Windows online help. Frustrating because it technically shouldn't be doing this when a game is running, hmmmm...
DeleteIs that through Windows 10 or the emulated Windwos 95? It sounds more like your desktop setup than the game itself.
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I found your post so interesting.
ReplyDeleteHello! I wrote some time ago about this game but I thought I'd share a new little incident I've got with this great package.
ReplyDeleteIt worked perfectly until very recently. Loading Windows 95, starting the game, then upon closing the game you "shut down Windows" then Ctrl-F9 and you're done.
However, I retried it in the last weeks and now it gets to W95 then says "unable to locate the CD". Which is odd, because it's mounted correctly. If I just double-click the shortcut on the W95 desktop, in fact, it does run. If I double-click drive E: it opens the startup screen and runs fine, too. It's just odd that it would suddenly do that. It's like the drive isn't mounted quick enough before the game is run, but that is just a hunch.
Otherwise, again, it works fine, and the PSX .exe also runs great.
Hello. This is one of my first Windows 95 games so I don't think it's my best package. I've completely switched to PCem now so stay tuned, it will be updated using that. I don't have time to trouble shoot the DOSBox version at the moment (work etc...) but at least the shortcut's working.
DeleteI might've had a typo in the win.ini file or something. Or loading up is too slow it's not recognising the HDD or altered configs properly (I know a recent Win 10 update caused a little havoc with DOSBox running Win95 - it requires more resources than it did). These are just possibilities but PCem seems more stable overall.
Fantastic! :) soon said, soon done, indeed. Here it is with a good bunch of other new versions, so thank you for all those.
DeleteJust a tiny thing: the PC version files' names are still "v2", but, they're dated May 2018 so they must be the right ones.
Correct. That was my error. It's all uploaded now so I'll probably just leave it.
DeleteHowdy! I want to thank you for your hard work getting this old game to run on PC. I am astonished that it actually runs on my computer and as it loaded up good ol' Windows 95 and went into the Noir loading screen the nostalgia hit me. I am having one issue--I haven't tampered with this sort of thing in years--the sound is shuttering, almost sounds like its being echoed so at first I thought it was playing twice, but that's not it. It's just cutting in and out rapidly. I've considered it might just be my computer, but the game seems to play fine otherwise. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteHi, I've been trying to find a way to play this old favourite for years and I finally found this fantastic download. Unfortunately when I loaded it today I'm having the exact same problem as you, so I don't think it's your computer. Hope someone somewhere can come up with a fix.
DeleteHello. The stuttering is due to it running on an underpowered machine. Emulating Windows 95 takes a lot of resources and PCEm isn't particularly optimised yet. Check out the FAQ for more info.
DeleteDamn, I was hoping that wasn't the case. Thanks for the reply!
DeleteSame problem here. My i3-5005U with Intel HD5500 graphics doesn't cut it for PCEm (visuals ok but sound stutters unbearably). So I tried the PSX version which runs fine and the visual inferiority isn't very noticeable on a small laptop screen. Is there a way to get to the save menu in game or is saving only possible via the PS emulator?
DeleteMay I also suggest preferring Mega for your future uploads as 4shared is becoming more obnoxious by the day (4shared server terminating the connection, asking to give them your Google,FB,twitter account info or email to download, trying to force PUPs on you, not allowing zip downloads for free accounts etc.).
All of my current and future uploads will be with Mega, so only the older remain at 4shared (doubt I'll transfer them over unless I update the package). Windows 95 emulation is a bit resource intenstive, so the sound stutter will likely occur. There are some points in the FAQ that may help though, but I don't know by how much.
DeleteChanging machine to p166 solves sound stuttering.
DeleteThanks for your reply and all the time and skill you've put into this package. I can't upgrade my present computer any further and can't afford a replacement just yet, so I'll have to wait a bit longer to play this great classic
ReplyDeleteThere is a fix for Discworld Noir on Windows XP-10 by Loma. Put the files in the game folder and run dn.exe.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/xwdimszr23ocer2/DiscWorldNoir_Fix.zip?dl=0
Thanks. I'll give it a look when I have the time. I did find a patch ages ago that supposedly worked on modern systems, but I found problems with it.
DeleteI had problems with older patches too but this works fine for me.
DeleteTested this patch earlier today and it works well. I'm a bit reluctant to use this version as the aspect ration mouse boundaries are off. I'm definitely keeping a eye out for any extra updates.
DeleteAs for PCEm and sound issues, check out that section in the FAQ as I've just updated it with recently learned info that may help.
Would love if you made a similar installer that uses Windows 95 for The City of Lost Children (1997) DOS version. I've looked all over the internet for a way of running that game, and eventually just gave up. I can still run the PlayStation version, but I wanted to try the DOS version.
ReplyDeleteThat game's definitely on my radar but I've not yet played it. I'll add it to my request list.
DeleteThankyou so much I love this game I own it on cd but dont have a sonyps1 any more,,
ReplyDeleteThe psx version usa or pal?
ReplyDeletepal
DeleteI have never used PCem before. Works but seems to run the emulation really slow. Win95 and the game. How do you speed up the CPU cycles/speed? I did see a config with CPU options but I don't understand the numbers. It's not like DOSBox cycle numbers.
ReplyDeleteThere's no such option in PCEm. It offers up better compatibility but requires the need for a higher-end PC rig and a distinct lack of options.
DeleteIn the config folder the file DWNW.cfg has CPU options. Was just curious if that was a way to increase cycles/speed.
DeleteOh I see... the CPU numbers in the .cfg file is just the CPU types. It's too bad PCEm doesn't let you up cycles outside of just choosing hard coded CPU types.
DeleteHi there - just wanted to say thankyou. Stumbled upon your site by chance and found this - it's been years since I played Discworld Noir and my hopes of GOG or someone picking it up dropped further and further with time.
ReplyDeleteBeing able to play this again was an absolute treat and I genuinely appreciate the work you have done to get it running.
A little choppy at times on PCem but that's the nature of the emulation, not a fault of yours. To anyone playing it I will say there is usually a large pause before cutscenes, so if you think it has frozen just wait till it loads.
Thank you again, truly - will be donating when I get a chance.
Cheers!
Dang,game still has the bug prevents yard location trigger.
ReplyDeletehi, thank for you for getting a working version of this game available. I've got the psx version you created but how do i save my progress?
ReplyDeleteThere are two ways. In the game, click both mouse buttones together to enter the menu. In the emulator, you can save a state by pressing F1, then select Save State (do the same but Load State to load). Be aware that you may need to run as admin if you've installed within Program Files.
DeleteHi, great work getting this working on modern machines.
ReplyDeleteI wonder, is there any way to increase the brightness a little? I know darkness is part of the atmosphere, but I can't actually see anything and it'd be nice to have a touch more visibility.
Thanks, and keep up the great work :)
Hey quick question. The game runs fine but there seems to be a lot of skipping of audio during movies and on the map screen. Is there a work around for this or just something that has to be put up with?
ReplyDeleteThanks!
Hello. Audio skipping is due to the emulation performance on your machine. It takes a lot of resources to not just emulate Windows '95 but also the game within that environment. There are points in the FAQ that may help speed it up, inluding getting the newer version of PCEm which is a little more optimised.
Deletehttps://collectionchamber.blogspot.com/p/faq.html#QUESTION6
You, my good sir, made my day.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for this gem.
The game worked flawlessly until i did something wrong in act 3...
ReplyDeleteNow there is no voiceover whatsoever, reinstalled couple of times and settings are good.
Played with the settings *volume music, voice, etc* but no results.
Subs go fine, but no voice, and music is stuck in some kind of loop.
If anyone can shed some light would be really nice...
Gotta address one little thing you wrote - you said the clever reference to Lara Croft is something Pratchett himself could have come up with had he been a gamer. But he was a gamer! He even interacted in some gaming communities in the 90s and 00s and was known to greatly enjoy Thief. He even played some of the many fan missions made for that game IIRC. I'm fairly certain he also played the Discworld adventures and enjoyed them.
ReplyDeleteHis daughter, Rhianna Pratchett even wrote the newer Tomb Raider games among many others. There's another little connection for ya! :)
DeleteCould you remake it with Dosbox instead of Pcem?
ReplyDeletePcem is slow af! even if it is based on Dosbox
thanks for everbody that support this game great works
ReplyDeleteVery very late here but I just wanted to clarify - Sir T *was* an avid gamer - he played a lot of video-games throughout his life. He was particularly a big fan of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and as I am given to understand enjoyed playing it modded. He even wrote dialogue for an Oblivion mod - https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-01-29-the-story-behind-the-oblivion-mod-terry-pratchett-worked-on
ReplyDeleteI've installed the PC version and while it plays fine, i'm finding the colours to be crushed (similar to saving a colour gradient as a jpeg several times). So a lot of detail gets lost, especially in dark areas (the entire game lol). eg Luton's office door blends a lot with the wall behind it etc.
ReplyDeleteIs there a setting i need to change or is this just how it looks for this version? Thanks
I get no sound. How do I go about fixing this?
ReplyDeleteThis is incredible! I tried so much to get this game to work when downloading from other sources and gave up hope I'd ever get to play again. Thank you so much!!
ReplyDeleteHi, thank you so much for putting this out. found the actual disc for sale in a charity ship but could not get it to run on win10. Your approach is vastly superior, but my results are rather laggy and choppy. Is this something you've encountered at all? thanks again
ReplyDeleteRunning a beauty on windows 11 ;)
ReplyDeleteHi, hope you're still here! I'm basically a caveman when it comes to computer stuff so I'd really appreciate some tips on how to play the game properly. My current computer is a HP Envy
ReplyDeleteHow the heck do I access menu? I'm running the game on the latest windows and it works smoothly but when I try to exit or save it nothing happens. The only thing I can think of is doing CTL ALT Del which brings me back to my home screen and minimizes the game window but doesn't allow me maximize it or do anything besides quit. I'd love some tips on how to access it so I can play it throughout the time without losing any progress or breaking my computer.
As I said I am basically a caveman when it comes to computers and only know how to press buttons when instructed so if the answer is obvious I probably don't know it. Would love some help!
Thought it was working but I have another question. It seems my saves are deleted every time I exit the game. I know you wrote some stuff about how you need PCem but I don't really know how to download it. Would love some help!
DeleteF1 F2 and F3 are the menu keys in-game. Took me a while of pression random keys to find it again (I played it 15yrs ago on Win95)
DeleteCame across this recently and was hit with big time nostalgia!! I downloaded the windows version and it works great until I want to save and exit the game. Firstly, I'll save and quit the game, shut down Win95, and then I'd get a screen I can't get out of. CTRL+ALT+PgDn doesn't work and neither does CTRL+END. I end up having to CTRL+ALT+Delete and end the emulator process just to get out of it. With that being said, afterwards I can't get the game running again. I just get a black screen and it beeps every so often. I'm on a laptop, brand new, and the PgDn button is also the 3 key on the numberpad. Would love to be able to play this so any help would be very much appreciated.
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